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统计窗口 2026-05-12 02:54:52 CST - 2026-05-13 02:54:52 CST 生成时间 2026-05-13 02:55:00 CST 总结模式 ai:openrouter

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今日发生了什么

今天社区论坛最热闹的是围绕 Rosen Bridge 集成提案的拨款结算出现分歧：协调员 zz_tovarishch 按新价格发放了 877 万 CKB 作为第一期里程碑付款 [S01]，但开发者 phroi 认为数额有误，质疑为何不沿用申请时约定的旧计价方式 [S02]，双方就"过渡政策"的适用边界展开多轮争辩 [S03, S04, S05, S06]。与此同时，Bitcoin Renegade 正式撤回了其 6 个月社区媒体推广提案 [S09]，表示要先与 Neon 讨论"双重策略"后再重新提交 [S09, S12]。

重点话题

  • Rosen Bridge 拨款计价争议持续发酵 — phroi 指出按原始申请比例计算，M1 应发约 631 万 CKB 而非 877 万 [S02]，zz_tovarishch 解释自 2025 年 10 月起实际执行已改用 CKB 新价格以缓解开发者汇率风险 [S03]；phroi 则搬出《过渡政策声明》和 CKBoost 先例反驳，强调该笔拨款应固定比例而非按新价结算 [S04, S06]，双方仍未达成一致 [S03, S04, S05, S06]
  • Bitcoin Renegade 撤回媒体推广提案 — 原本申请 6 万美元等值 CKB 的社区媒体 Campaign 提案 [S08]，经协调员确认流程后 [S07]，提案人主动声明撤回 [S09]，打算 refine 方向（考虑加入丹佛本地 meetup 或 Rare Evo 类似活动）[S12]，后续将重开新帖申请 [S10, S12]
  • Common Knowledge Base Association 亮相 — CKBA 发布首帖介绍自身定位，强调 CKB 作为公共基础设施不应依赖任何单一实体 [S13]，不过截至发稿该帖仅有一条空白回复 [S14]，具体计划和社区反响尚待观察
  • Fiber 生态有新工具上线 — ebubedev 发布了 Fiber Desktop，让用户能在笔记本上免公网节点 headache 运行 FNN [S25]；RetricSu 表示赞赏并称自己也有类似想法 [S26]
  • 新提案拨款照常推进 — 隐私订单簿应用链 2026 Phase-1 和 Android 轻客户端 Pocket Node 分别完成 M1 和 M3 打款，两笔交易均已在链上确认 [S21, S22]

值得继续跟进

  • Rosen Bridge 定价规则能否形成明确先例 — 本次争议暴露了 Community Fund DAO v1.1 过渡政策在不同批次申请中的解释弹性 [S03, S04, S05]，若不能统一适用标准，可能影响后续开发者信任 [S03, S04, S05, S06]
  • CKBA 的后续动作与资源投入 — 目前仅见宣言式开篇 [S13]，缺乏具体路线图、预算或治理结构信息，需观察是否会成为基金会之外的新协调主体 [S13]
  • 国库激活讨论的情绪走向 — Yeti 与 d3fus7.bit 继续就协议国库替代方案交锋，一方认为中心化高效执行利大于弊 [S16, S18]，另一方担忧二级发行带来的抛压及透明度问题 [S17, S19]，RFC 正式化前舆论可能进一步分化 [S16, S17, S18, S19, S20]

来源索引

  • zz_tovarishch · 2026-05-12 17:06:00 CST
    M1 Payout https://explorer.nervos.org/transaction/0x0c59bdaedb9be76e4682c75a254dafc35713cbe136d158a444d18dfa5b96c3dc 8,777,063 CKB (representing the 23% of full grants)
  • phroi · 2026-05-12 23:24:38 CST
    Hey @zz_tovarishch & Commission, thank you for the payment Just there seems to be a misunderstanding: x / 27,356,903 CKB = 15k USD / 65k USD ~ x = 27356903 CKB * 15 / 65 ~ x = 6,313,131 CKB Please, could you double check this? If you can confirm, could you give us guidance on...
  • zz_tovarishch · 2026-05-12 23:43:02 CST
    Hi Phroi，CKB数量的差异是因为自25年10月以来，在实际执行中，打款都是按照CKB新的价格进行，一定程度上缓解价格波动对开发者的影响
  • phroi · 2026-05-13 00:40:42 CST
    zz_tovarishch: the difference in CKB amount is because since October '25, in actual execution, payments have been made according to the new CKB price Linked CKBoost payment was a special case: Transitional Policy Statement (Community Fund DAO v1.1) V. Special Cases: Approved...
  • zz_tovarishch · 2026-05-13 01:07:04 CST
    Transitional Policy Statement (Community Fund DAO v1.1) 发布在2025年12月 但CKBoost在2025年7月的申请中提出： [DIS] CKBoost Gamified Community Engagement Platform Proposal Amount requested: $20,000 USD (around 4635652.81 CKB at current price. Should use the latest price at the time of issuance)...
  • phroi · 2026-05-13 01:09:39 CST
    Additionally, payment target is CKBoost is not last price, it was: Fixed Milestone Percentage in CKB + reimbursement of any loss inccurred to CKB price
  • zz_tovarishch · 2026-05-12 09:28:16 CST
    Hi Bitcoin_Renegada, 想跟你确认一下，目前这份提案，你是已经决定撤回，不在继续申请流程了吗？亦或者是你修改了它（看到有修改记录），继续进行申请？ 因为这涉及我作为协调员，对流程进行同步以及给DAO委员会提醒，感谢你的回复
  • Bitcoin_Renegade · 2026-05-12 11:30:00 CST
    Grant Proposal: 6-Month Community Media Campaign Submitted by: Bitcoin Renegade Proposal Overview My name is Bitcoin Renegade, a crypto content creator, blockchain marketer, and long-time community advocate focused on educating audiences, driving adoption, and building strong...
  • Bitcoin_Renegade · 2026-05-12 11:32:31 CST
    I would like to withdraw the proposal for now and discuss further with Neon on a few key points on his dual approach which I think I would fit perfectly. So yes please inform me of the steps to withdraw
  • zz_tovarishch · 2026-05-12 12:07:22 CST
    Hi 感谢你的坦诚和对提案精益求精的追求 虽然目前没有标准化的提案撤回流程，但在不违背DAO 1.0规则的前提下，我建议这样操作： 请您在本帖中发布一条撤回该提案的确认声明，当然也欢迎您在其中简述后续打算改进提案的大致方向 作为协调员，我会把信息同步到社区 等您和Neon以及其他社区成员讨论完善提案后，欢迎新开一个[DIS]提案贴进行提交
  • Bitcoin_Renegade · 2026-05-12 22:54:47 CST
    Ok thank you and i will do
  • Bitcoin_Renegade · 2026-05-12 22:57:43 CST
    I am formally withdrawing my proposal set before you to refine and progress the approach used to have the best outcome possible. I will refine the approach to either add a meet up locally to the Denver area or a future event like rare evo for me and my team of Renegades after...
  • CKBA · 2026-05-12 20:01:31 CST
    ckbaann1920×1080 385 KB From the beginning, CKB has been guided by a simple principle: a truly decentralized network should not depend on any single person, group, or organization to survive and thrive. Blockchains are public infrastructure—open, permissionless systems...
  • zz_tovarishch · 2026-05-12 20:35:28 CST
  • Ckroamer · 2026-05-12 20:01:32 CST
    github.com/nervosnetwork/fiber-docs feat: fiber example game adaptation for fiber-sdk and recent fiber updates catch-up master ← ashuralyk:master 已打开 11:58AM - 12 May 26 UTC ashuralyk +2768 -2788 fiber has upgraded into v0.8.1, however, the example game is still behind with...
  • Yeti · 2026-05-12 07:29:41 CST
    jimi-winehouse: the solution I am proposing is to activate the treasury and just make it centralized and focus on high impact projects. Taking a year of work to decentralize a treasury is resource mismanagement. I actually wouldn’t have too much of a problem with the...
  • d3fus7.bit · 2026-05-12 15:16:09 CST
    Yeti: will be offset by the positive things that the treasury funds will achieve. Call me toxic, but I have hard time seeing this..
  • Yeti · 2026-05-12 17:05:49 CST
    Nah, I don’t think you’re toxic mate, you don’t beat around the bush though haha. But I think the positives of the treasury will far outweigh the downsides of the sell pressure. It won’t really be any different than how other projects and even how Nervos has been funding a lot...
  • d3fus7.bit · 2026-05-12 18:20:23 CST
    I hope that happens. The difference, though, is that the money will come from the secondary issuance.. anyway, it might turn out to be for the best in the end. : ) Yeti: I just think there needs to be some sort of system in place to prevent huge amounts of CKB are being payed...
  • Yeti · 2026-05-12 18:28:57 CST
    d3fus7.bit: I support this idea and in combination with the burning mechanism if some proposal is not good enough is a step in the right direction. Otherwise, I don’t see any point in accumulating funds in this account/contract aimlessly. Yeah, I think I’ve seen it mentioned a...
  • zz_tovarishch · 2026-05-12 17:02:23 CST
    M1 Payout https://explorer.nervos.org/transaction/0x88241cad0617d2ca5f1482217d557c89ea34429c55c61cf1cf34e637e412c286 3,127,036 CKB (representing the 20% of full grants)
  • zz_tovarishch · 2026-05-12 16:59:43 CST
    M3 Payout https://explorer.nervos.org/transaction/0x03274cedea0cc5c39bcf669ad4d238d21e52267e9ee8ac60194ae6cbb730cb16 2,198,697 CKB (representing the 22.5% of full grants)
  • d3fus7.bit · 2026-05-12 15:51:06 CST
    chenyukang: The use of the treasury funds will be fully open, transparent, and verifiable on-chain for everyone to see. Will this be user-friendly, will it be easy for a non-technical person to understand what’s going on? chenyukang: the governance protocol could direct the...
  • terrytai · 2026-05-12 15:04:15 CST
    感谢各位的反馈，我觉得有道理。已经关掉了这个设置 allow_users_to_hide_profile 以前设置的值是论坛系统的默认，我们之前其实没有做任何设计。
  • ebubedev · 2026-05-12 08:43:09 CST
    Hi everyone, If you follow Nervos, you may have heard of Fiber — a way to move value quickly on top of CKB using channel-style payments, routing, and invoices. To use it, you normally need a small program running in the background: the official Fiber Network Node (often called...
  • RetricSu · 2026-05-12 09:36:19 CST
    Awesome! I had the same thought about desktop app for fiber and so glad that someone built it!
  • IrisNeko · 2026-05-12 03:14:06 CST
    第九周周报 一、本周目标 本周重点承接 Telegram 群内测反馈，继续修复真实使用中暴露出来的回答质量、检索覆盖、消息格式和部署可复现问题。 相比第八周，本周不再只关注“Bot 能否在群里稳定跑起来”，而是进一步关注： 面向真实用户问题时，Agent 是否会主动检索足够资料。 技术教程是否能优先使用现成框架和真实 API，而不是给出空泛 TODO。 Telegram / Discord 长回复、代码块、链接和引用格式是否稳定。 模型路由是否过于保守，是否需要更多 medium/high 档参与复杂任务。 检索数据和 Qdrant...

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[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @zz_tovarishch

谢谢你的指正。后续会按照通过投票的项目的实际情况通知委员会打款。 具体到CKB integration for Rosen Bridge, 这次多打的CKB数量，我会在下次需要打款时告知委员会减掉相应数额。

[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @phroi

zz_tovarishch: Therefore, in current practice, the disbursements for each project have been recalculated accordingly. Nope nope, that’s a MetaRule change in itself. All this said: If it’s opt-in, I don’t mind and it...

[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @phroi

Now the issue is this: Sonami: Grant Amount: $65,000 USD (CKB price: $0.002376; CKB requested: 27,356,903) Note how we did not specify equivalent value in CKB at the time of disbursement

[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @phroi

Additionally, payment target is CKBoost is not last price, it was: Fixed Milestone Percentage in CKB + reimbursement of any loss inccurred to CKB price

[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @zz_tovarishch

Transitional Policy Statement (Community Fund DAO v1.1) 发布在2025年12月 但CKBoost在2025年7月的申请中提出： [DIS] CKBoost Gamified Community Engagement Platform Proposal Amount requested: $20,000 USD (around 4635652.81 CKB at current...

[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @phroi

zz_tovarishch: the difference in CKB amount is because since October '25, in actual execution, payments have been made according to the new CKB price Linked CKBoost payment was a special case: Transitional Policy...

[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @zz_tovarishch

Hi Phroi，CKB数量的差异是因为自25年10月以来，在实际执行中，打款都是按照CKB新的价格进行，一定程度上缓解价格波动对开发者的影响

[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @phroi

Hey @zz_tovarishch & Commission, thank you for the payment Just there seems to be a misunderstanding: x / 27,356,903 CKB = 15k USD / 65k USD ~ x = 27356903 CKB * 15 / 65 ~ x = 6,313,131 CKB Please, could you double...

[DIS] Bitcoin Renegade CKB Media Campaign · @Bitcoin_Renegade

I am formally withdrawing my proposal set before you to refine and progress the approach used to have the best outcome possible. I will refine the approach to either add a meet up locally to the Denver area or a...

关于 `ccc/fiber-sdk` 的一些想法和进展 · @Ckroamer

github.com/nervosnetwork/fiber-docs feat: fiber example game adaptation for fiber-sdk and recent fiber updates catch-up master ← ashuralyk:master 已打开 11:58AM - 12 May 26 UTC ashuralyk +2768 -2788 fiber has upgraded...

Discussion about an alternative to the protocol treasury · @Yeti

d3fus7.bit: I support this idea and in combination with the burning mechanism if some proposal is not good enough is a step in the right direction. Otherwise, I don’t see any point in accumulating funds in this...

Discussion about an alternative to the protocol treasury · @d3fus7.bit

I hope that happens. The difference, though, is that the money will come from the secondary issuance.. anyway, it might turn out to be for the best in the end. : ) Yeti: I just think there needs to be some sort of...

[DIS] CKB Integration for Rosen Bridge · @zz_tovarishch

M1 Payout https://explorer.nervos.org/transaction/0x0c59bdaedb9be76e4682c75a254dafc35713cbe136d158a444d18dfa5b96c3dc 8,777,063 CKB (representing the 23% of full grants)

Discussion about an alternative to the protocol treasury · @Yeti

Nah, I don’t think you’re toxic mate, you don’t beat around the bush though haha. But I think the positives of the treasury will far outweigh the downsides of the sell pressure. It won’t really be any different than...